Author Topic: New Defenders to be built but not from where you'd expect.  (Read 15441 times)

Trevor

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Re: New Defenders to be built but not from where you'd expect.
« Reply #360 on: November 02, 2020, 05:45 AM »
Hehe, well, at least Land Rover is still consistent...they're Quality Control program hasn't changed. These guys bought a Defender and had it out for a day, then back to the shop for 3 weeks to try and fix a check engine light issue. It's a week away from Lemon Law applicability in the US. :)

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Re: New Defenders to be built but not from where you'd expect.
« Reply #361 on: November 02, 2020, 06:58 AM »
Yes.  And because it is such a large YouTube channel, LR flew in an engineer from the UK....and still have been unable to repair it. And these guys are huge LR fans.  For years they have been trying to convince people that they are not unreliable.

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Re: New Defenders to be built but not from where you'd expect.
« Reply #362 on: November 02, 2020, 10:45 AM »
The first model year of any brand vehicle tends to have more issues than subsequent versions. Land Rover however seems to have an unusually steep learning curve on all its products.

Embarrassing for JLR as they made such a big deal about all the testing they did to ensure reliability.  :-[
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Re: New Defenders to be built but not from where you'd expect.
« Reply #363 on: November 21, 2020, 04:27 PM »
This is becoming very sad in so many ways:

https://youtu.be/mkpB8okB-xw


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Re: New Defenders to be built but not from where you'd expect.
« Reply #364 on: November 21, 2020, 04:57 PM »
To summarize. You can’t invent this stuff.

After weeks with factory engineers Land Rover decided it needs a new engine.

As this would take months, they gave them another vehicle.

The new vehicle arrived and the dealer went to install the factory winch. The dealer could not get the winch to work.  The got another winch and realized they had cut a harness that is not replaceable. The new vehicle is a write off.

They are going to get them a third vehicle.

Good luck if you are a normal person.

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Re: New Defenders to be built but not from where you'd expect.
« Reply #365 on: November 22, 2020, 11:00 AM »
On the upside we have our very first New Defender engine swap in progress!

Would be interesting to find out more about “irreplaceable wiring harness” though?
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Re: New Defenders to be built but not from where you'd expect.
« Reply #366 on: November 22, 2020, 08:22 PM »
We looked into installing a winch in a NEW land rover at the shop.  Had a look at the factory install manual and allowed 30hours to install it.   The install manual for that warn winch LR is using is short novel and the process to install the winch involve disassembling the front bumper, and part of the front end.   HOLY COW!!!!!!    The dealerships price for the wince and install  was over $10k and after seeing what was involved I can see why!

This is so far from trail ready it's getting a bit silly!   
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Re: New Defenders to be built but not from where you'd expect.
« Reply #367 on: November 23, 2020, 11:27 AM »
So everybody’s worst fears about the New Defender are coming true then?

Complex, non field repairable mission critical electronics failing & off road essentials (such as a winch) being ridiculously expensive and difficult to install. And that’s only the Land Rover factory supported problems! Just imagine the aftermarket issues?

Disappointing.
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Re: New Defenders to be built but not from where you'd expect.
« Reply #368 on: November 24, 2020, 06:46 PM »
That's about as far off the rails as things can get...hehe, and we're not done yet either!
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Re: New Defenders to be built but not from where you'd expect.
« Reply #369 on: November 26, 2020, 12:33 PM »
Three videos into fitting a factory winch and they are still going....




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Re: New Defenders to be built but not from where you'd expect.
« Reply #370 on: November 26, 2020, 08:03 PM »
ASPW somehow got his hands on a new Defender. Doubtful it was JLR. Guessing a viewer loaned it to him but I’d say his feedback is pretty fair (nothing we all haven’t been saying already) and the hilarious part is the TFL guys left a comment on his video wanting to do a collaboration.

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Re: New Defenders to be built but not from where you'd expect.
« Reply #371 on: November 29, 2020, 03:46 PM »

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Re: New Defenders to be built but not from where you'd expect.
« Reply #372 on: November 29, 2020, 09:26 PM »
And the first commercial is for a Subaru   LOL


And I like his last comment....."put a discovery badge on it, cause that's what it is."
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