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Title: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: Red90 on December 03, 2015, 08:29 PM
We have been running a trip to Waiparous, northwest of Calgary over the holidays for the last few years.  This year the day after New Year’s looks to be a good choice.

This  will be a day trip in the Ghost FLUZ (Waiparous) north west of Calgary.  We will plan for an easy trip to the falls or Margaret Lake for a lunch.

Meet Saturday, January 2 at the Tim Hortons in Cochrane.  Departure at 09:30. Arrive earlier if you want breakfast.  The Timmy’s is just off of highway 22.

Bring a pair of chains for the rear tires along if you can.  Sometimes they are needed but some years you can’t live without them.  Last year was a good example of a year they were really needed.

For those coming from the north that do not want to drive all of the way to Cochrane, let me know.  We can plan to meet near the start of the trail and I can provide directions.

If you have any questions, ask away.
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: Rosco on December 06, 2015, 10:54 AM
A nice area for a winter trail run, I might have my defender back on the road by then.

Would it be a land rover only event?
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: Trevor on December 06, 2015, 11:06 AM
I'm hoping to make it down for this run as well
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: B-Red on December 06, 2015, 12:55 PM
I am planning on going to this one. Hoping B-Red will be in tiptop shape for it.
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: B-Red on December 07, 2015, 04:36 PM
Is there any changes in the PLUZ rules this year for this run?
I didn't have a chance to review them yet.
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: Red90 on December 07, 2015, 05:03 PM
Quote from: B-Red on December 07, 2015, 04:36 PM
Is there any changes in the PLUZ rules this year for this run?
I didn't have a chance to review them yet.

No.  AFAIK, there have not been changes to rules anywhere.
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: Red90 on December 07, 2015, 05:26 PM
Here is a snippet of the map showing the possible trails we are allowed to do in that area....

Red = roads
Purple = truck trails
Green = quad trails
Blue = bikes
Green with snow flakes = Open to trucks in the winter.
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: Trevor on December 30, 2015, 03:13 PM
I didn't get my motor mounts swapped out this week...had work stuff to do instead. And I noticed I need some new ball joints as well. So the Disco's going to stay off the highways this weekend until I can get these items repaired. So my tentative status just moved to a no-go unfortunately.
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: binch on December 30, 2015, 10:19 PM
How many folks from down south are coming out for the day????
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: Matt H on December 31, 2015, 09:35 AM
Don't know about the other guys but I'm working the 2nd so I won't be going.   :(
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: binch on December 31, 2015, 02:53 PM
I was planning on driving down with Emad and Lloyd tomorrow, so we can get a fresh start on Saturday morning ;-)

Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: Red90 on January 02, 2016, 08:43 PM
Thanks everyone for coming out.  It was a nice day.

Some photos here: http://www.red90.ca/photos/land-rover-trips/Ghost%20January%202%202016/

Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: binch on January 03, 2016, 12:08 AM
That was a GREAT day out!   Thanks for the tour John.....always a good outing!     And it was great to have Kirk come out an join us again too.....     I'm looking forward to seeing more detail of Jeff's 1961 S11 turbo'd 2.25 petrol engine too.    I think there will be a few people on here that will be quite impressed with the work that was done ;)    I've got a call into Malcalm to see if he knows who the architect of the landy was......should hear back tomorrow I hope.
Title: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: Red90 on January 04, 2016, 09:33 PM
Lloyd posted a few teaser photos on FaceBook at https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1066415733389909.1073741837.100000644770133&type=3

I think you can see them without being logged in.
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: binch on January 04, 2016, 11:24 PM
Some good photos there!!!!   Nice Job Lloyd ;)
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: B-Red on January 05, 2016, 11:04 AM
Great pictures from all here. I really enjoyed my day out on this trail.  Breaking through the ice was interesting with John's D90. Good recovery though. Climbing the river crossing ledges proved challenging for some lol.
Weather was also great.
Thank you John for organizing this event.

I was wondering, are we allowed to do winter camping on this trail? Some of the RVs on this side of the road looked they were there for the weekend. Would be great if we can organize a winter camp there. Some great trails for picking or snowshoeing.

Cheers, Emad
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: Red90 on January 05, 2016, 12:23 PM
Quote from: B-Red on January 05, 2016, 11:04 AM
I was wondering, are we allowed to do winter camping on this trail? Some of the RVs on this side of the road looked they were there for the weekend. Would be great if we can organize a winter camp there. Some great trails for picking or snowshoeing.

Yes.  You can read the rules here: http://aep.alberta.ca/recreation-public-use/recreation-on-public-land/public-land-use-zones/ghost-pluz.aspx
QuoteCampsites and fires must be one kilometre (0.6miles) from a Provincial Recreation Area

Have you ever been to the site we use regularly west of Sundre?  It is a nice spot.
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: B-Red on January 05, 2016, 04:37 PM
Good to know. I am not familiar with the site you mentioned. Do you have GPS coordinates for it?
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: 88Hillman on January 05, 2016, 05:09 PM
You have to wait until it's at least -30C before you go camping west of Sundre...

:o

... at least that's the story I tell my wife!
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: Red90 on January 05, 2016, 05:42 PM
Quote from: B-Red on January 05, 2016, 04:37 PM
Good to know. I am not familiar with the site you mentioned. Do you have GPS coordinates for it?

Of course.  If you want directions, let me know.  Coordinates by themselves are probably not enough.  Maybe we can do a camping weekend there again now that 88Hillman is coming out of retirement.
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: B-Red on January 05, 2016, 07:30 PM
I would be interested in trying this out. Adam was taking about this as well.
How does February sound for the folks out there?
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: lropchan on January 06, 2016, 03:01 PM
Thanks Bill,

The full set of photos are at: https://www.flickr.com/photos/lropchan/albums/72157663110326561 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lropchan/albums/72157663110326561)
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: Trevor on January 06, 2016, 04:07 PM
Looks like a good time was had.

How was the hill? Icy, or not too bad?
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: binch on January 06, 2016, 04:19 PM
Great Photos Lloyd!!!!     We took a route up the creek so there really weren't any "big" hills this time.   In fact we didn't even need to chain up.   But still....it was a great day out ;D
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: Red90 on January 06, 2016, 04:26 PM
The trip was up the Ghost River.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1473/24106790872_c83242bfc9_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/CJeB4o)2016-01-02_GPS-Track (https://flic.kr/p/CJeB4o) by lropchan (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lropchan/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: binch on January 06, 2016, 04:52 PM
There was a vid clip posted on Youtube that showed some yeeps at the big hill two weeks earlier and they polished that hill really well.
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: Terry I on January 07, 2016, 10:28 AM
Quote from: binch on January 03, 2016, 12:08 AM
That was a GREAT day out!   Thanks for the tour John.....always a good outing!     And it was great to have Kirk come out an join us again too.....     I'm looking forward to seeing more detail of Jeff's 1961 S11 turbo'd 2.25 petrol engine too.    I think there will be a few people on here that will be quite impressed with the work that was done ;)    I've got a call into Malcalm to see if he knows who the architect of the landy was......should hear back tomorrow I hope.

wow, what's the scoop on the 2.25 turbo petrol?!!
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: SpeedyJ on January 07, 2016, 02:22 PM
The turbo 109 is mine, I picked it up a little over two years ago without any providence. I've explored quite theories as to where it came from, but so far I've been unable to identify the manufacturer of the kit, or even if it was a kit. My best guess for a while was that it was one half of the Janspeed Rover V8 kit produced around 1977-78, but even then, it's not an exact match.

For those that didn't see it, the 3 bearing 2.25 petrol (possibly from a 73-74 Lightweight) is running a small, low pressure turbo with a draw through SU carb. It has a standard points ignition that get's intercepted by a home built ECU (think RadioShack c. 1980) that does some black magic to the timing and helps it run.

The motor is a bit tired and runs more then a little rich (better then lean, no?), but seems to pull pretty well. I've been focused on resurrecting/refreshing the brakes, axles, swivels, tires, wheels, etc, and have only given the engine a tune up so far. The truck was in dry storage for around 15 years before I got it, so I just wanted to get everything else roadworthy to give me a chance to assess the engine before I went down the rabbit hole of engine swaps and rebuilds.

My most likely plan of attack at this time is to convert to negative ground and install a MegaJolt ignition system, this gets rid of the points and allows me to program the timing based on load, rpm and boost.

Lloyd, those photos are great! Do you mind if I use a few of my truck on Facebook?

Cheers

Jeff
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: lropchan on January 07, 2016, 06:18 PM
Thanks Jeff. Feel free to use some for your facebook page.
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: binch on January 07, 2016, 10:26 PM
I spoke to Malcalm and he had no idea about the truck so there goes that resource.    But it did have a sticker from a local Land Rover dealer that was located on 109st and stoney Plain road back in the 60's.     I've seen the turbo unit on a Brazilian website, applied to a 4 cylinder engine as well....but not nearly as tidy a job.
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: Matt H on January 09, 2016, 07:27 PM
It was uncommon but not unheard of to bolt turbos to 2.25 and 2.5 LR's in the late 70's and early 80's in the UK. Back in those days turbos got added to almost everything!

In Britain and Australia several small engineering firms offered "kits" for boosting your Landie.

Not many survived as OEM turbos powered units and cheap Rover V8's from rusty RR's began to trickle down to the DIY mob so this one is really quite remarkable. 
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: Red90 on January 09, 2016, 07:49 PM
Whoever did this one knew what they were doing. As Bill says it was better than Land Rover factory.   Mandrel bent stainless tubing.  Custom manifolds. Beautiful work.
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: Red90 on January 09, 2016, 07:52 PM
Photo stolen from TRS.
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: SpeedyJ on January 09, 2016, 08:33 PM
At full boost it runs at about 4psi, if I'm lucky I'm back to as much power as a fresh engine.  Mostly, it's a conversation piece and makes a cool whirring noise.

It's also very good at complicating the desired alternator upgrade.

-J
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: Red90 on January 09, 2016, 08:49 PM
Did not look. Is there not space where the stock alternator goes?  It is the same mount all the way through the 200TDI and you can get a 120 amp that is plug and play.
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: SpeedyJ on January 09, 2016, 08:58 PM
You're probably right, I've been focused on the well documented Pangolin upgrade/relocation. I'll have to have a closer look at it. If anyone has a loose, suitable alternator I'l love to borrow it to eyeball the install.

The alternator upgrade will go hand in hand with a polarity reversal and a MegaJolt install. I'm assuming that the (undocumented, one off) homebuilt ECU will not cope with a switch to negative ground.


-J
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: Red90 on January 09, 2016, 09:10 PM
The nice thing with staying with the normal 2.25, 2.5, 200tdi alternator is 90% of the trucks on trips  around here use that style.

Can't imagine any problem changing the current Ecu over to negative ground.  Although mega jolt would be nicer.
Title: Re: Waiparous Day Trip Saturday, January 2, 2016
Post by: binch on January 09, 2016, 11:43 PM
Low boost isn't too bad....but where it shines is at the higher elevations, keeping up that "stock" power level  ;D