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General => Non Technical Discussion => Topic started by: Red90 on January 25, 2016, 01:40 PM

Title: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: Red90 on January 25, 2016, 01:40 PM
Soft top in Keswick Green and will be owned by Roger Crathorne.
Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: headdamage on January 25, 2016, 02:27 PM
Sad  :(
Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: Matt H on January 25, 2016, 06:22 PM
It's now official. Land Rover no longer make anything I'd care to buy.

At one time I would have been thrilled to be able to buy any Land Rover model available.......then the Freelander came out and since then LR have killed off or changed beyond recognition all those great vehicles.
Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: Red90 on January 25, 2016, 07:11 PM
They have been hinting at continuing production in India for less stringent markets.
Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: binch on January 25, 2016, 10:47 PM
I have it on very good authority that the defender will be built again by a certain company in Austria whose name begins with 'S' and are responsible for building the G wagon and Pinzguar.    The vehicles themselves will not be built in Austria but the company is there. 8)

Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: Matt H on January 25, 2016, 11:53 PM
Land Rover just made a deal to build a factory in Slovakia due to come on line in 2018. But it is rumoured that it is going to be able to produce 300,000 units a year so I don't think it will be building old Defenders for third world nations.
Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: binch on January 26, 2016, 08:12 AM
Yeah, I don't think it will be the same defender....but at least there's hope for the future. ;)
Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: Red90 on January 26, 2016, 08:47 AM
http://www.lro.com/news/land-rover/1505/defender-production-could-move-to-india/
http://indianautosblog.com/2015/01/land-rover-defender-production-to-move-out-of-the-uk-163761

I don't see anything anywhere indicating the Slovakia plant or the Steyr deal have anything to do with the continuation of the current model.  I'm pretty sure they would need to push the production outside of the EU to prevent regulatory problems.

This one says the new model will be built in Slovakia, which is most likely the reason it is taking so long to come out.  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3193382/New-generation-Land-Rover-Defender-4x4-favoured-Queen-built-Slovakia.html
Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: Red90 on January 28, 2016, 08:58 AM
Assembly today.
Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: binch on January 28, 2016, 02:28 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: Red90 on January 29, 2016, 08:06 AM
http://www.lro.com/news/land-rover/1601/solihull-to-begin-restoration-of-older-land-rovers/
Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: Red90 on January 29, 2016, 08:08 AM
Final pics.  Note the registration number.
Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: Red90 on January 29, 2016, 08:09 AM
First production Land Rover.
(http://www.landyonline.co.za/specs/specs_images/hue166.jpg)
Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: binch on January 29, 2016, 08:34 AM
What  sad day.......    But what have they got around the corner that they are keeper a very close secret...... ::)
Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: Red90 on January 29, 2016, 08:42 AM
Quote from: binch on January 29, 2016, 08:34 AM
What  sad day.......    But what have they got around the corner that they are keeper a very close secret...... ::)

It will be like an FJ Cruiser is to a Land Cruiser....  It will sort of look a bit like the old versions, but the stuff underneath will not be fabulous.

Some people have seen test mules that have RRS bodies on the new Defender platforms.  Looks like all independent suspension.  Probably similar drivetrain and suspension to the current lineup.  I would expect the body to have some tie back to the old models and most likely room for larger tires.  All at a stupid price.
Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: Matt H on January 29, 2016, 11:52 AM
How do they it's the new Defender platform on the test mule and not the D5 that is slated for release before the Defender?

I'm not going to be surprised if it is an ifs/irs unit though. It not an altogether bad thing anyway. 
Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: Red90 on January 29, 2016, 11:56 AM
Quote from: Matt H on January 29, 2016, 11:52 AMHow do they it's the new Defender platform on the test mule and not the D5 that is slated for release before the Defender?
Because the person was at Land Rover and they told him it was the new Defender platform being tested.

Quote from: Matt H on January 29, 2016, 11:52 AM
I'm not going to be surprised if it is an ifs/irs unit though. It not an altogether bad thing anyway.
The problem is that at best you can do moderate and the odd difficult trail.  That will be the upper end.  Live axles allow you to fairly easily build to be doing extreme level trails.  It is all about it not being able to be the best or being able to be made as good as the rest.  It will be an okay dual purpose vehicle and have lots of cool doodads.  It will make Land Rover lots of money.  It won't be something that the owner will enjoy following me on an exploration trip in.
Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: binch on January 29, 2016, 12:32 PM
well put John ;)
Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: Rambler on January 29, 2016, 12:58 PM
A different take on things.. ::)

http://sniffpetrol.com/2016/01/29/defender-purists-blast-final-buyers/#.VqvDz_DOeK2
Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: binch on January 29, 2016, 04:08 PM
LOL   The nerve of those country folk taking the last of the defenders to work in the field ahhahahah.

I met one of those gentleman who heard the end was near so he ordered his new d110 csw a year ago and took possession in the late spring.   He was told by the sales rep that one of the local adventure companies had ordered 200 of them just for the price.    Something like what happens to the price of automatic weapons in the states everytime there is a mass shooting in the news.   They worry about controls so the price goes up another 10%.
Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: Matt H on January 29, 2016, 07:04 PM
Curious they would just come out with a big deal detail like independent Suspension like that after being so closed lipped about any feature of the new unit?

I will leave the IS v beam axles debate alone.

Personally I think it was a grave mistake to move away from leaf springs.
Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: Rambler on February 05, 2016, 03:57 PM
Some great photos of the last one working its way down the line  :'(

http://www.thegentlemansjournal.com/the-end-of-the-defender/

Hmm, looking down the photos this is not correct as we have seen the last one is a pale green with tilt..  ::)
Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: Red90 on February 05, 2016, 04:16 PM
Quote from: Rambler on February 05, 2016, 03:57 PM
Hmm, looking down the photos this is not correct as we have seen the last one is a pale green with tilt..  ::)

Yes, the last one was carefully speced to be as close as possible to the first production Series 1.

Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: binch on February 05, 2016, 06:07 PM
I'm really curious what that last one will be worth in 10 years. ::)
Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: Red90 on February 05, 2016, 06:43 PM
It is probably worth a million right now but it was given to someone that worked for Land Rover for 40 years. I doubt it would ever be sold.

The 2 millionth one sold for $800000 and this would be more valuable.
Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: Matt H on February 05, 2016, 09:50 PM
So, if we apply the current rate of depreciation that all modern Land Rovers are subject to it should be worth around $10-15,000 in ten years time.  ;D or $5K if you trade it in.

I'll just wait then.
Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: binch on February 06, 2016, 09:11 PM
Quote from: Red90 on February 05, 2016, 06:43 PM
The 2 millionth one sold for $800000 and this would be more valuable.

HOLY CRAP!!!!!!
Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: Red90 on February 08, 2016, 08:23 PM
Nice detailed photos.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/last-ever-land-rover-defender-full-gallery-and-specifications
Title: Re: Last Defender off the Line Today
Post by: Red90 on February 09, 2016, 07:55 AM
The red and yellow on the shift levers was a cute touch.