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Title: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: Matt H on October 02, 2015, 12:12 PM
Hi Folks, I'm organizing a trip out to the Blacktail/WildBill trail system in the second week of July 2016. This trail is close to the Blacktail Ski area, near Kalispell, Montana.

You can read more about the trail system and how it got nominated as a BFGoodrich outstanding trail here. http://www.skyliners4x4.com/index.php/blacktail-wild-bill-ohv

I've been in contact with the local off road club, Skyliners 4x4, and got info on the trail system that I will add later. There is quite a lot of info to share.

The basic plan would be to take a 5 day week to run the trails and see the local attractions using the weekends to travel.  Flat head lake is an amazing area with lots to do and see (and fish). Lots of State Parks, water sports etc. so if you want to bring family they won't have to be stuck out on bumpy trails all the time.

As far as accommodation is concerned I have holidayed often in this area and stayed at a local Motel that has a hot tub, patio and swimming pool so I would suggest staying there but it's not mandatory. We can meet up for breakfast/trail head etc. if you want to camp. If enough folks want a motel room I can call and try to negotiate a group rate.
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: Matt H on October 02, 2015, 09:02 PM
Trail info.

The entire main trail system is roughly 20 miles (32 km) long and set out in a Y formation. Apparently any two legs of the Y can be run by a small group in a day. The main trail is rated easy and can be crossed by most stock 4x4's. Along the trial there are natural and man made optional sections that range from moderate to "lookout your gonna roll". According to my contact in the local 4x4 club, more miles of trail is being opened up this year.

This means the trail is as hard or as easy as you would like it to be. The trail can be run in multiple directions and there are several entrance/exit points making trail days easy to organize.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zkxWT73RHo8

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=08DnXl9HA7g

You can see the optional more difficult bypass in these YouTube videos with the main (easy) trail in the background.

The views of the Flat Head Lake valley are supposed to be stunning. Also, there is the famous 'Going to the Sun' road that may be fun to drive too.
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: Matt H on October 02, 2015, 09:11 PM
Looks like some of the obstacles are quite big but it helps when you disengage the stupid.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-fU4bJeMFNQ

Interested parties will need a reliable vehicle with the standard trail kit, front and rear tow points, tow strap, Jack, spare wheel etc.

I will be driving the Mighty Range Rover and my wife (Joy) will likely take her LR3.
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: B-Red on October 03, 2015, 08:27 AM
This is looking interesting Matt. What's the name of the town that the motel is in?
Your date is good too.
I would like to put my name in the hat for this trip. Count me in.
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: Matt H on October 03, 2015, 07:38 PM
The Motel is in a really nice small town called Big Fork. Rooms are nothing fancy but they are clean and comfortable. My kids all loved taking a dip the pool every evening. If we have several folks wanting to stay here I will try to get us a group rate. Looks like it's around $120.00 USD a night.

Here is a link to their website.

http://timbersmotel.com/rooms.cfm/mode/details/id/4320/one-queen-bed
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: B-Red on October 04, 2015, 07:30 AM
I checked the motel Matt. July is almost booked for them. Are the trails east or west from the lake? The west side has few towns on it with more lodging options.
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: Matt H on October 04, 2015, 03:59 PM
July accommodation in that area is always tough. We are almost a year out and most places will be filling up. Especially closer you get to 4th July.

If we were to move the dates to the 3rd week in July (17th-23rd) we have 11 double Queen rooms available at the Timbers Motel right now.

I will phone the manager Monday about getting a group rate and will reserve 5 rooms right away for the above dates. Costs nothing to reserve a room as long as it is canceled at least 24 hours prior to the date booked.
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: B-Red on October 04, 2015, 06:12 PM
That sounds great Matt. Mark me down for one room.
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: Matt H on October 04, 2015, 09:17 PM
Will do.

I'm really looking foreword to it.
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: Mark on October 07, 2015, 12:45 PM
I'm at interested!!
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: Matt H on October 09, 2015, 11:36 AM
Ok, I have 5 rooms reserved on my CC. I've negotiated a special rate for our group so let me know if you want a room and I will PM you the promo code so you can confirm and pay directly.
Dates are Sun July 17 to Sat July 23.
The group rate is $120.99+tax per night rather than $140+tax a night regular price.
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: Trevor on October 11, 2015, 09:33 AM
Bit late in replying, was down in Moab. Count me in Matt, and I'll take one of the rooms as well!
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: Matt H on October 12, 2015, 10:13 PM
Great. Glad to have you along.
I will send you a PM with the booking details.

Emad, I've sent you one too.
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: B-Red on December 07, 2015, 10:01 AM
Seeing that time flys fast, how many are planning on going to this trip so far?
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: Trevor on December 07, 2015, 12:47 PM
I'm in the "tentative" camp currently. I have recently got a bit of an itch to run the AMT again, and if I do that I won't have time for this trip as I am already committed to 2 x Moab trips this year.

I will likely know for sure early into the new year.
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: binch on December 07, 2015, 02:24 PM
Susan's got us in the UK for mid June to Mid july.    And a re-run of the AMT maybe in order for late august.   
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: B-Red on December 07, 2015, 04:34 PM
Depending on who wins in the election down south, I may end up exploring Canada instead. The $ slump does not help either. A reverse AMT may be in order. Am playing it by ear at this point.

I am running the winter ice roads up north this winter. Am also scouting the Wabasca - Ft Mac hidden passage. A muskeg run can prove pretty challenging. Will post here if I get more info on it.

I think we need to call for the planning meeting soon. Great ideas floating around.

PS: I got the newsletter today from Mattrack. I need a big fat contract to get my hands on these tracks. Would make tire changes history. Tough to carry a spare.

Say Matt, does this trail have more swampy trails or more rocks and cliffs?

Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: Matt H on December 08, 2015, 07:25 PM
Some mud if it's wet but it's on a mountain so it's mostly rocky. No swamps.

Me and mine are going, obviously, along with Yoda, Paul and possibly Simon. Dave L was hoping to make it as well.
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: Matt H on March 01, 2016, 08:49 PM
Due to circumstances I'm sorry to say that I'm postponing this trip until summer 2017.

Poor exchange on the Loonie v the US$ and the bleak economic situation in AB has left most folks interested in attending wanting to stay closer to home......or at least inside Canada this year.

Oh well. Hopefully 2017 will be kinder to us and we can get out there next year.

Matt.
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: binch on March 02, 2016, 08:43 AM
What about AMT maybe?
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: Matt H on March 02, 2016, 10:31 PM
Is love to participate in the AMT trip but sadly I only have the first week in August free and the trip is mid-late August is it not?
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: binch on March 03, 2016, 01:12 AM
That was the general plan....... ::)
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: Red90 on March 03, 2016, 11:35 AM
I thought the event schedule showed you planning a Whipsaw trip the beginning of August?
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: Matt H on March 03, 2016, 05:41 PM
Yes. I saw that too? I did mention that I was interested in maybe doing the whipsaw and I had the first week of August to kill.

Now it appears I'm leading the expedition!!!

I had better find out where it is I suppose.
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: binch on March 03, 2016, 07:03 PM
hahahahahh

John's the man with the maps  ;)

You may as well tie the Jeep trail in there too.   And the cross country route we took down that area was really nice too!!!!  Found a little lake we stopped at for lunch, in the ranch lands, and found a mother load of saskatoons!!
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: Trevor on March 03, 2016, 08:37 PM
Quote from: binch on March 03, 2016, 07:03 PM
hahahahahh

John's the man with the maps  ;)

You may as well tie the Jeep trail in there too.   And the cross country route we took down that area was really nice too!!!!  Found a little lake we stopped at for lunch, in the ranch lands, and found a mother load of saskatoons!!



BEST....SASKATOON BUSH....EVAR!!!!
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: Red90 on March 04, 2016, 07:56 AM
I might be interested in a shortish trip in early August like this.

If you do want any info, let me know.  The Whipsaw is near Princeton.
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: B-Red on March 04, 2016, 12:59 PM
Would that trail be ok for a Disco? Not familiar with the area.
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: Red90 on March 04, 2016, 01:10 PM
Quote from: B-Red on March 04, 2016, 12:59 PM
Would that trail be ok for a Disco? Not familiar with the area.

Sure.  The Whipsaw is pretty tame.  Are there trails that are not okay for a Disco?

http://www.red90.ca/photos/land-rover-trips/ALRE_BC_2012/100_3155.JPG.php
(http://www.red90.ca/photos/cache/land-rover-trips/ALRE_BC_2012/100_3155_w580_h436.jpg)
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: binch on March 04, 2016, 05:18 PM
Yeah, that was a gorgeous campsite and all the spring flowers were in bloom too...LOTs of Colours!

But be warned.....that trail makes your butt look big  ;D
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: B-Red on March 04, 2016, 05:24 PM
I would love to get my hand on the GPS trail for my Garmin. This starting to sound more possible for me.

Matt you are the leader. Can you identify the departure and start point. Will be fun to go for a Walk About this Summer
Title: Re: Wild Bill/Blacktail Trail, Montana. 2016.
Post by: Matt H on March 04, 2016, 07:33 PM
Well ok then. Whipsaw first week of August it is then.

I'll start a new thread for this trip.


.......and find out exactly where we are going  :-[